Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. You kind of stole my question. I wanted to ask that one, but fine.
No problem. Yeah. So, Daily Driving Plus Mobile. Of course, you all know this
awesome project, Plus Mobile exists.
We know Plus is for mobile. I've been trying anyway to daily drive this for a few months now.
And there are issues. So the main question is here, why aren't we there yet?
So yeah, why talk about this in the first place? Not Plus Mobile in itself, but daily driving it.
Ideally, all of you are daily driving it right now, but that's not happening.
So yeah, first of all, how many of you have known Plus Mobile exists? Raise your hands.
Basically everyone. Yeah. How many people do have a phone with them right now
that runs it? Not necessarily main phone, but secondary phone maybe.
View one. Yeah, how many of you are actually daily driving it second phone maybe,
One person exactly and me That's not enough.
We need this to change of course So,
There are some issues, but it's definitely in my opinion anyway,
very useful at useful at the moment So I'm gonna talk a little bit about my
setup and how I'm using this.
So my setup, as for a phone, there are a few phones you can use right now.
This is also one of the main reasons probably most of you aren't using it,
because your phone probably right now isn't compatible with the Linux kernel
and whatever that's required to run Plus Mobile.
I bought a phone specifically for this. It's a Pixel 3a, but there are several
phones you can use. Of course, we all know probably the Pine phone and the Leaping 5.
There's also like the OnePlus 6 and the Xiaomi Foco phone F1.
One, the Fairphone 4 and 5 are usable, but I'm using Pixel 3a.
As far as software goes, there are multiple distributions you can choose from
nowadays. I'm from PostmarkedOS, so I use PostmarkedOS.
But there is Mobion out there. It's just Debian for mobile. It has Plus Mobile nowadays.
I think there's OpenSUSE working on it. There's a Fedora port in progress.
And more is coming every year, really.
And recently or what was
it last year Academy I've set up for post marketers
or post story with 90 versions of KD so every
night it builds all of KD but from
git master specifically meant for use on
plus mobile this was mostly useful when plasma sticks was still work in progress
and it was at that moment not really easy way to run that on your phone so I
said a KD nightly for that and I'm still using that every day now i know some
people are using a desktop and saying you can use this please do report bugs
i'd say the same for mobile please use kd nightly report bugs.
So yeah, some apps I'm using, of course, on your phone you use tons of different apps.
Some really common use cases are actually really doable already.
So for the browser we have Anglefish, for example. For notes you can use Marknode,
get the application, just write in Markdown.
For YouTube there's PlasmaTube, which uses a proxy in between to basically watch your YouTube videos.
For file syncing I use an application called GhostCloud. This actually comes
from the Sailfish ecosystem but has a non-Sailfish UI, which is usable enough for us.
It's not pretty, it's not Kirigami, but it works.
For chat, of course, Neo Chat. Most people probably use it on desktop,
but if you just make the screen small, it also works really well on mobile.
For music, listening to Elisa. For a calendar or mail even, soon hopefully, you can use Mercuro.
Then for navigation, there are multiple applications out there. I use Osmin personally.
It's also a cute application, but a lot of people will probably also use PureMaps.
But it can be used for turn-by-turn navigation and also navigate you around in Würzburg.
And then for social media, Mastodon in this case, you can use Tokadon,
again, very mobile friendly.
And this is actually one of the few, but probably in this list,
one of the many, because it's made for not necessarily desktop first but from
the get-go made to also work really well on mobile.
Um so yeah it's really useful with these things but there are definitely a few
things still lacking and that might block you from using it um the biggest one
on this is probably the camera,
this only really works on the on the pine phone and the libra 5
but on any android phone is really an issue my pixel
3a actually has camera working at the moment with a
few k beats um but there's the problem i have three
camera camera apps on my phone two of them are
from kd and the only one that works is the third one which is a gnome application
bill nurse issue um so i would like that to change preferably um but also um
calling calling in itself works no problem and the issue there is combining
that with suspense if you want good battery life of course you want your phone to suspend.
But when your phone is suspended right now, it wouldn't wake up when you receive
a call. That's going to be hard to explain to your mother when she calls you.
So, at this point, I would recommend disabling suspend. Personally, I find that,
bit annoying. I prefer my battery life. So I have a second phone with Android
just for phone calls and old spots, really.
But yeah, it's doable. But the main issue I think right now is just a lot of
paper cut bugs, a lot of really small ones, probably easy to solve.
Maybe part of the 15 minute bug initiative can be done really easily.
But they are there because nobody sees them because
nobody uses it and you need people to
report those things in first place but especially skd developers
would be nice if people just use the phone saw
this happening um so it could be fixed easily as an
example from neo chat one of the
things it does on launch is just open the last
chat room you've opened yet open before
it quits this is nice on desktop where you
have your nice sidebar with all the rooms in there and
then you have the big panel with your screen with your chat
in there but the mobile opening the room first
means you don't get to see the rest of chats and
the room that's been opened is probably not the one you want to use at that
moment so the first thing i do is back out go screen
back select a different room and use that
um i looked in the code actually it's
probably like a two line fix just make a check if it's mobile
don't do this function that's really it I have
yes yesterday so very much
in time but yeah it's an example a really
small thing but it's there and if you just have enough of these is really
annoying yeah again please use plasma mobile help us out here and in general
apps of course there's the KD apps initiative by cow that would really help
here make apps make them mobile friendly as well as What will help is,
first thing, just resize the window.
There's also an environment variable you can set to make the controls use mobile styling.
So, that way you can really easily test applications just on your desktop.
So for development, this is probably quite different from what you're used to from desktop.
On desktop you probably use KDE Builder or something like that.
You can use it on your phone, but your phone isn't as powerful as your laptop is.
So you'll get an overheating phone probably, or it just takes a long time. Not preferable.
For postmarked OS we have this tool called PM Bootstrap. We just had to develop
our entire distribution really, but it can also use to build and test individual applications.
You basically, you write a build script on your desktop, you use PMBootstrap
to build it locally, but not for your host architecture, but you build it for your phone.
So if your host is x86, you could build it for ARch64 instead.
PMBootstrap just handles that for you. And then as a command,
PMBootstrap sideload, with which you can just copy the package to your phone,
install it, and then run it.
This is a really easy way to test any application and mostly get a speed boost
because your laptop is just more powerful than your phone.
Preferably, we get some kind of KDE Builder integration into this,
also probably not connected to PostMarketer specifically,
but to be able to use KDE Builder or KDE SourceBuild like you're used to from
your desktop with the regular commands or whatever, and then just a command
at the end to sideload it through your phone.
That'd be a nice future thing to target for.
So my goal for next year is have the majority of you use Plasma Mobile.
So, maybe a long shot, but we'll see. Yeah, please give it a try.
Most of the phones the system works on are, they're not the newest phones.
They're not like eight, you don't buy them for 800 euros in a shop.
They're actually, most of them are secondary. secondary, you can get them for
fairly cheap. I bought this Pixel 3a for, I think, 100 euros.
That's honestly not a lot for a phone nowadays.
Please get a phone that's supported, use it,
try to bring it with you on daily trips you're doing, try to actually use Tokenon
on your phone instead of some Android app on your Android phone,
and help us make Plus Mobile dominant and take over the world. Thank you.